NZVP Ep. 137 - Help

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Here is that debate between Gary Francione and Dario Ringach that I talked about

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/debate-the-use-of-nonhuman-animals-in-biomedical-research-a-moral-justification/

Here is the video of the debate.  The sound is TERRIBLE someone didn't turn off their darn cell phone >:(  But despite that it's worth a listen just grin and bear it.  It's worth it  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8OMtRiD3oI

Thank you for listening