NZVP Ep. 151 - In favour of sterilizaion

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This is the article I mentioned about pets: https://www.abolitionistapproach.com/pets-the-inherent-problems-of-domestication/ Please read it.

This is a link to the famous debate with Erik Marcus, highly recommended listen: https://www.abolitionistapproach.com/my-dinner-at-eriks-happy-meat-diner/

 Thanks for listening

NZVP Ep. 150 - Another "victory" that wasn't

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NZVP Ep. 149 - on engendering hostility

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This is the podcast episode I was interviewed on that I mentioned: https://alwaysforanimalrights.blogspot.com/2020/11/episode-43-why-animal-rights-advocates.html

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NZVP Ep. 148 - Kia kaha and be safe and remember - don't compromise the moral message no matter what

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Thanks for listening, sorry about the terrible sound quality and thanks for listening.

NZVP Ep. 147 - Happy Abolitionist Approach Vegan New Year 2020

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Thanks for listening

If you hear a sound like angry bees it's the car racing that happens near my house all summer long :/ Sorry about the noise.

Happy New Year

NZVP Ep. 146 - lets bring it back to the moral personhood of all animals

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Here is a link to Animals as Persons - please read it!: http://cup.columbia.edu/book/animals-as-persons/9780231139502

Here is the facebook page of the Abolitionist Vegan Weekly Tabling with Vanda Kadas and Mariana Landeros Corona: https://www.facebook.com/pg/Abolitionist-Vegan-Weekly-Tabling-2003263296583131/posts/?ref=page_internal

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ZVP Ep. 145 - DXE has officially come to NZ. Great.

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Here we are at the new and improved easy-to-manage street stall.  Thanks to Jeff for designing the tablecloth.  We are back!!!!!!!!

NZVP Episode 144 Special guest Jeff Lyons from the NZ Vegan Street Stall

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Thanks so much to Jeff for coming on the show and for being my fellow street stall advocate!

Thanks for listening.

NZVP Ep. 143 - New Years Resolution - Be More Social

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Here is a link to the Webinars I mentioned: LINK HERE

Here is the one that I think they really talk a lot about the issue that I am talking about in this episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4-28gwQYTc

NZVP Ep. 142 - Domestication Issues

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Sorry about all the popped 'p's - I had the mic in a bad place.  I used to edit them out in pro tools but I hate Garageband and that's all I've got, I don't know how to use it properly to do cross fades.  Sorry, it must sound awful in headphones. Please forgive me.

Thanks

NZVP Ep.141 - getting back out there again and managing insecurities fear and paranoia and conditioning

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Wow. I was sheltered for so long at my job.  This is getting back out into the real world and I am finding out again about all my limitations and the things holding me back (myself, basically). It's a painful look in the mirror but worth doing.

Here is Peggy's video from The World Vegan Summit - it is so inspiring.  All the videos from the abolitionist approach advocates are so please watch them all.

PLEASE learn The Abolitionist Approach to Animal Rights.  Read the Six Principles.  Go on the website and watch all the Videos.  Read the Books - try to get them at your local library if you can't afford to buy them.

We can do this people!  We must.

Here is my badge I was talking about, that I wear every day

Notes and corrections:

1. ARGH so sorry the condition I was talking about is IRITIS (not Rinitis!!!) or Uveitis - here is information about it, it's good to learn about different things people are going through. https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/798323-overview

2. I completely forgot that years ago I had heard of one situation that a vegan was going through, who did have a terrible medical condition in which her body could not make or maintain its own cholesterol, and therefore was in an awful situation as was really really struggling to find a way to maintain her vegan diet without dying, literally.  It was a very hard thing, and a long struggle, that was very real, and this was a situation in which animal products (which unlike plants contain cholesterol) seemed to be the only medically viable option for them.  Luckily, and also because this person believed in animal rights they finally found a way (I don't know the exact details) to manage it without having to compromise their veganism.  So I actually also relayed that story to the person I was talking to as well, using it as an example to talk about the animal rights point of view. 

3. Sorry if the quality is so bad, I was just planning to do a 10 minute video but it turned into 40 minutes so too big for me to figure out how to upload, so it's now a podcast with really bad audio quality.

NZVP Ep. 140 - Yes, I do want to discourage you from single issue activism and welfarist activism

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Here is the podcast with Wayne Hsiung, Gary Francione and Bob Linden
http://www.goveganradio.com/go-vegan-radio-615/ - the discussion occurs starting at about 36 minutes into the show.

Here is the ever important, historical, monumental must listen debate between Erik Marcus and Gary Francione (if calling it a 'conversation' will make you listen to it, then call it a conversation) it's a MUST LISTEN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-NWA4Rf120

Here is a link to Gary Francione's BOOKS.  READ THEM!  http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/books/
This is Rain Without Thunder, published in 1996: http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/the-necessity-of-theory/

We know the world isn't going to go vegan overnight okay????
http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/abolition-simple-concepts-pop-quiz/

This is that blog post I talked about about the coalition needed for these single issue campaigns (also discussed in the podcast with Bob Linden and Wayne Hsiung). It's called" Why Welfare Reform Campaigns and Single-Issue Campaigns Necessarily Promote Animal Exploitation http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/14542-2/

Here is the blog post on the importance of theory and how everyone, even those who says they don't subscribe to theory, is actually operating under some kind of theory:
http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/the-necessity-of-theory/

Here is that podcast I did about "one way" activism:
http://nzveganpodcast.blogspot.co.nz/2016/05/nzvp-ep132-earthlings-experience-and.html

Check out Vanda Kadas' facebook page to see her fantastic, REGULARLY OCCURRING abolitionist approach vegan stall that she does every week!!! Here is a photo:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155228092022895&set=t.729047894&type=3&theater

NZVP Ep. 139 - Happy New Year 2018

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So this is a confessional with a New Year's resolution attached.

Here is a link to the saved recordings of the Webinar videos with Gary Francione and Anna Charlton - the one called Advocate For Animals is the latest one but they are all worth a watch. You can also sign up to see them live and have your questions answered live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z57FK4Zf0xs&list=PLAg_TeZ267R6313TaOwEFJoxhUsRx1c_U

Check out the new book!!  Advocate for Animals!: here is a blog post about it with a link at the top to where you can get it: http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/new-book-advocate-for-animals-an-abolitionist-vegan-handbook/

Here is the How Do I Go Vegan website:  www.howdoigovegan.com there is a link to their Facebook page

Frances McCormack is the vegan mentor from How Do I Go Vegan (there might be other people too that I don't know about!): http://www.howdoigovegan.com/mentoring/

Here is a post showing their week of fast easy meal ideas (this is from Facebook page): https://www.facebook.com/notes/howdoigovegancom/a-week-of-fast-food-meal-ideas/526632434358925/

Here is a link to the International Vegan Association Nutrition guide if you live overseas and I highly recommend it: https://www.internationalvegan.org/nutrition/

Thanks for listening!

NZVP Ep.138 - Abolish Welfarism!

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Apologies for bad sound quality and no music, it is FREEZING here and I don't have my heater and so I am just in bed rugged up and I am only getting out of bed to get food or cups of tea.  Too cold!!! So I just recorded this on my phone in bed.  Luxury of modern life I am very lucky.

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NZVP Ep. 137 - Help

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Here is that debate between Gary Francione and Dario Ringach that I talked about

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/debate-the-use-of-nonhuman-animals-in-biomedical-research-a-moral-justification/

Here is the video of the debate.  The sound is TERRIBLE someone didn't turn off their darn cell phone >:(  But despite that it's worth a listen just grin and bear it.  It's worth it  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8OMtRiD3oI

Thank you for listening

NZVP Ep.136 - Dedicated to Scooter the mouse. Be an abolitionist vegan and don't give up.

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NZVP EP.135 - Happy New Year 2017

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Here is a photo of Puss Cat, rescued and safe and finally in a forever home, inside and cared for properly. She will be safe there, and receive all the medical attention she needs, I am very grateful to everyone who saved her xxxx

Here is a photo of Truc and Me and Jeff doing the stall.

Here is a link to the replay of the fantastic webinar I talked about.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHluHraCJHQ&feature=youtu.be

There will be more webinars!  Go to Gary Francione's Facebook page to join the community! : https://web.facebook.com/abolitionistapproach/?_rdr

Happy New Year everyone!

Thank you for listening.

NZVP Ep. 134 - Abolitionist Vegan Education is not limited to nonvegans

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Here is that amazing video that I beg you to watch that has the 'burning house scenario'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rChElJ4CjhY

Get Eat Like You Care: http://www.eatlikeyoucarebook.com

Read Gary Franciones BOOKS!!!!!:  http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/books/

NZVP Ep.133 - Exposes and loyalty to them. Also, a tribute to Bubbles the mouse. R.I.P little one.

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This is about "Exposés"  I couldn't put the accent on the "e" in the title because feedburner rejects it for some reason and the podcast won't work.

Here is the story I was talking about re: my experience with a PeTA video: http://www.nzvegan.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/My-Vegan-Story.pdf 

Dedicated to dear sweet Bubbles and to Sophie and Michael, who are the most big hearted, generous, kind, and unconditionally loving and amazing people I have ever had the privilege of meeting in my life.

Thank you for listening

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NZVP Ep.132 - 'The Earthlings Experience' and similar new activism (or is it really new..?)

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Please check out the Six Principles of the Abolitionist Approach to Animal Rights: http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/about/the-six-principles-of-the-abolitionist-approach-to-animal-rights/

Please read ALL Gary Francione and Anna Charltons' books: http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/books/

Please read this article about violent imagery in advocacy:  http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/violent-imagery-in-animal-advocacy/#.Vz2nmmMyeA0

Here is that article I mentioned by Frances McCormack that coincidentally was published on the weekend about graphic imagery http://www.ecorazzi.com/2016/05/13/vegans-dont-need-graphic-imagery-to-advocate/

Thank you for listening.


Dedicated to Buda the cat.

RIP my darling.  Miss you forever.

NZVP Ep.131 - Street stalls: a vegan oasis

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Here is the must see video which I want to present to people if I ever get the chance to get enough people in a room willing to watch it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rChElJ4CjhY

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NZVP Ep.130 - Domestication must die! and same goes for SICs

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here is the debate between Gary Francione and Bruce Friedrich at the North American Animal Welfarist conference in 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ1qFdR1cHA


Here is the debate about SICs I mentioned:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRHr5bwNvLA


Here is the FANTASTIC new book by Gary Francione and Anna Charlton Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach  http://abolitionistapproachbook.weebly.com

So thrilling!!

Here is the Facebook page for the mice - Lefty and Big Daddy need a home NOW https://www.facebook.com/18NZMice/?ref=hl

NZVP Ep. 129 - Welfarist obfuscation strikes again

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Here is the article I talked about:

https://humaneleaguelabs.wordpress.com/2015/09/20/report-is-animal-cruelty-or-purity-abolitionist-messaging-more-effective/

Here is the link to all of Gary Francione's books please read them ALL:  http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/books/

Here is the link to the groundbreaking debate with Erik Marcus and Gary Francione please set yourself down with a pot of tea or coffee or whatever and listen to the whole 2.5 hours.

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/my-dinner-at-eriks-happy-meat-diner/#.VgEpU-mFu0c 

Here is the direct link to the audio in case you missed it:  http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/media/mp3/eriks-diner-2007-02-25.mp3

Thanks for listening

NZVP Ep.128 - baking soda rocks and trolling the trolls

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Here is the link to the Vegan For Life podcast I mentioned from Nícolas Noriê  http://plainsfm.org.nz/programme/vegan-life/

Here is a link to the article I was trolled and trolling on (I wasn't really intended to troll per se and I don't think what I was doing classifies as trolling but it felt like it in the end especially the way I started behaving) http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/a_haven_from_the_animal_holocaust_20150802

Here is a basic recipe I found for baking soda and coconut oil toothpaste - I use an old baby food jar (I used to give the cats some pureed baby food squash until I just started making it myself) but any jar will do:

• Fill your jar with a heaping scoop of soft (but not melted) coconut oil (about 1/4 to 1/2 way full if you’re using a tiny jar). If your oil is super solid, you can place place the jar in a bowl of hot water for a few minutes.
• Sprinkle the baking soda on top (about 1/2 the amount of coconut oil) and stir well.
• Add some peppermint oil to taste (Optional)
• Test it. It should pretty grainy, paste like (creamy, not hard), and leave your mouth feeling super fresh. If you can’t feel the grain, add some more baking soda. If it feels crumbly, you need more coconut oil. If you don’t feel the freshness, add some more peppermint oil.

Here is the mouthwash again:

8 drops peppermint oil

8 drops tea tree oil

250 mils of water

Hey so regarding the baking soda and vinegar shampoo - there are apparently a lot of articles out there saying it damages hair but I have used it for about 3 months and i am loving it more every day but whatever.  There are lots of homemade vegan shampoos online for you to check out.  I won't post links there are too many.

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NZVP Ep.127 VEGAN VEGAN VEGAN!!!!! By hook or by crook we are going to end the misrepresentation of this word

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Here is the link to Gary Francione's book Eat Like You Care:  www.eatlikeyoucarebook.com  

Here is the link to all the rest of his books please read them:  http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/books/

Here is a link to the videos please watch them:  http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/video/

Please also explore the rest of the site www.abolitionistapproach.com

Here is the speech by Chris Hedges please watch it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA41ggsdeXE

NZVP Ep.126 - treatment treatment treatment

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or here 

here is the documentary on abortion that I mentioned:

https://archive.org/details/when_abortion_was_illegal 

Here is the link to that thread I mentioned on the Abolitionist Approach Facebook Page

https://www.facebook.com/abolitionistapproach/photos/a.393908680628892.94280.156275557725540/965200420166379/?type=1&theater

Here is the video I talked about that is the best in the world and changed my life and made me an abolitionist vegan:

NOTE: there are some upsetting photos but lots of beautiful photos and the context is so on point.  I wouldn't ask you to watch it if I didn't think it was worth it.

https://vimeo.com/4808525 - to watch at the link or watch below (make it full screen if it is not showing properly)

Theory of Animal Rights from Gary L. Francione on Vimeo.


Thanks for listening and please please remember to READ GARY FRANCIONE'S BOOKS http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/books/

Here are some photos from Jam on Toast and Eco Day

NZVP Ep.125 - random stuff

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thanks for listening :)

NZVP Ep.124 - Happy Vegan New Year 2015

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Key word: Focus!

Here is the song I mentioned - it's very beautiful and sad, but more beautiful than sad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by0xnJStass



Here is the poster I mentioned of the pigs:

Here is information about the plastic gyres in the ocean I mentioned:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_garbage_patch
Thanks for listening and happy vegan new year.

P.S The word I was looking for was DICHOTOMY

NZVP Ep. 123 - there is no such thing as "Ahimsa" cow's milk

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I am reluctantly putting a link to the FAQ I talked about although I dislike even promoting their site at all:
http://www.ahimsamilk.org/faq/

This is the photo of the little bull with the ring in their nose on the Facebook page that I talked about: https://www.facebook.com/266909179987461/photos/a.293516217326757.79424.266909179987461/883563834988656/?type=1

Here is the article about nose ringing a bull I mentioned:
http://www.lifestyleblock.co.nz/lifestyle-file/livestock-a-pets/cattle/item/21-nose-ringing-a-bull-.html

Here is the article about artificial weaning of cows I mentioned:
http://www.awionline.org/lab_animals/biblio/jaaws7.html

Thanks for listening

NZVP Ep. 122 - tales from a damp and noisy street stall, and Gary Francione - the voice of our conscience

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Here is the CNN interview: http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2014/10/04/smerconish-cat-kicked-10042014.cnn&video_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abolitionistapproach.com%2Fandre-robinson-king-confused-thinking-animal-ethics%2F

Here is the NY Times article: http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2014/10/01/enforcing-the-legal-rights-of-animals/eating-meat-is-also-animal-abuse

And there was a Daily News article too!  I forgot to mention! : http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/gary-francione-stop-scapegoating-cat-kicker-article-1.1969363

>>This is, I am pretty sure, the unedited and originally titled version of the NY Times article or at least that's what it seems to be:  http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/andre-robinson-king-confused-thinking-animal-ethics/#.VEH4pL4Qe3w

This is the Facebook discussion I was talking about re: "mock" animal products: https://www.facebook.com/abolitionistapproach/posts/867250949961327

Thanks for listening!

Here is me at my damp stall!  I wouldn't normally go in weather like this to be honest, but I had 2 dozen cupcakes and there was nuthin gonna stop me!

NZVP Ep.121 - first winter street stall and the disintegration of The Vegan Society

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Here is the link to the Vegan Printer: www.veganprinter.com

Here is links to heaps of the articles and Facebook postings about The Vegan Society debacle:

THE "VEGAN" SOCIETY WITHDRAWS "THERE, WE SAID IT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE VEGAN." - Facebook post about the 'rebrand' and the changes they made after the first protest of the new TVS campaign

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/moment-silence-donald-watson-founder-vegan-society/#.U-9o90sQcbS

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/vegan-society-ambassador-fiona-oakes-veganism-not-for-everyone-probably-not-many-people/#.U-9cK0sQcbS

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/manager-vegfestuk-tim-barford-many-people-get-ill-vegan-diet/#.U-9clEsQcbQ

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/cant-make-stuff-vegan-society-ambassador-fiona-oakes-says-promoting-veganism-moral-imperative-causes-damage-animals/#.U-9cF0sQcbQ

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/vegan-society-corporate-partners-sustainable-animal-agriculture/#.U-9cBEsQcbQ

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/brought-vegan-society-disrepute-insisted-vegan-society-vegan/#.U-9cb0sQcbQ

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/vegan-society-decide/#.U-9cqEsQcbQ

Part 1 of the debate between Tim Barford and Gary Francione: http://www.goveganradio.com/2014/08/04/3-august-2014/

Part 2 of the debate:  http://www.goveganradio.com/2014/08/13/10-august-2014/

Facebook events page for the debate: https://www.facebook.com/events/809889079061401/

This is the debate between Gary Francione and Erik Marcus: a MUST listen for any advocate:  http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/audio/#erik-marcus-20070225  There is also a pdf of the transcript the relevant part I was referring to is here:

"...as far as what we say to people who don’t ... I’m not really interested in designing campaigns – I mean look, Erik, there are going to be people who disagree, they’re going to be people who aren’t interested at all. So shall I design
my campaign and shall I target my efforts to the people that don’t care?

You know, last night I saw this movie Amazing Grace, it wasn’t a perfect movie, but it was certainly, given the grand scheme of horrible movies these days, it was a worthwhile movie to see. It was about Wilbur Wilberforce, who actually with Richard Martin, I
think this is accurate, that he started the RSPCA in England, but William Wilberforce
was also an abolitionist with respect to slavery. And it was very interesting, because he had to confront this very issue. That, at the time that he decided slavery should be abolished most people thought slavery shouldn’t be abolished, and yet, he didn’t propose that we ought to make slavery more humane. He took an abolitionist position continuously, and eventually he prevailed. So I’m not really interested in worrying
about – yeah, are there some people out there that don’t care?
You used the expression “gratuitous cruelty” I don’t even know what the hell that means, Erik. I really don’t even know what that means, gratuitous cruelty. What does that mean? We don’t need to eat animals at all. Nobody maintains – its 2007, nobody, not even the United States government maintains that we need to eat any animal products to be optimally healthy. Indeed an increasing number of mainstream healthcare people are telling us that eating animal products isn’t good for us. So, all suffering in connection with animals that we’re raising for food is gratuitous. So I don’t know what you mean when you say gratuitous cruelty.
But, are there people who don’t care? Yes, Erik, there are people who don’t care, and there are a lot of people who do care. And what I’m interested in doing is reaching those people, and when I reach them, the last thing in the world I want to tell them is, “Hey look, you’re going to go from Abu Ghraib to a minimum security Connecticut prison if you buy cage-free eggs.” I’m not going to tell them that. I’m going to tell them if they care about this issue there’s one choice: go vegan. And you know what? Some people are going to turn off to that, and some people are going to turn on to that, and what I’m interested in is the people who turn on to it, because every person I turn on to it decreases demand. That’s what we’ve got to do, is decrease the demand. And the way you decrease demand is you get people to stop using these products altogether. You don’t do it by imposing opportunity costs that are so deminimist that producers can pass those costs along to consumers and not lose a cent of profit. Indeed, there is a huge markup. I don’t know if you’ve shopped at Whole Foods recently, but they’re making a lot of money. Those products are marked up tremendously. Those producers are making a tremendous profit. I don’t think that’s the solution. As a matter of fact, I’m sure it’s not."

Here is my Facebook status I read out:  https://www.facebook.com/NZVegan/posts/541388332629761

"Listening to the second part of the debate between Gary Francione and Tim Barford. So far we are at just the first question, re: having groups like "Part-Time Carnivore" attend Veg Fest. Tim is justifying this by saying cutting down to say 20% animal products is still going to have an immensely positive effect on the environment and human health, as well as decreasing by 80% the amount of animals used.

Nobody is disputing that less harm is better. Nobody is disputing that or has ever disputed that. It is not an issue that is focused on in human rights campaigning against fundamental human rights abuses like rape (I mean, less rape is better right? So should we campaign for 'less rape'? NO!!! We should and do campaign for NO RAPE!)

The main theme of Tim's position and of every single other welfarist I have debated myself in various places, is the same one. Their position is: if you advocate for veganism unequivocally, not only will people not even begin to think about these issues at all, and therefore because they won't even begin to think about them that means they will therefore never start to examine their animal use, leading them to start to cut down on their animal use anyway, of their own volition, based on these issues they are beginning to think about because they were talked to about veganism - not only will they not do that, but that they will completely and utterly, down to the last person, freak out, reject the entire thing entirely, and will make NO reductions and might even increase animal use out of some kind of perverse notion and will never, ever go vegan, or ever cut down, or ever have their consciousness awoken in the slightest bit about the immorality of animal use.

This is their claim. Based on this erroneous belief, they claim we *have* to promote "meat free Mondays" or "part time Carnivore" or welfare 'reforms' or 'cutting down' etc and we cannot promote veganism unequivocally or hold veganism as the moral baseline. Otherwise, they claim, NO ONE will make ANY CHANGES. EVER. That's their position.Does that make sense to you? That doesn't make sense to me either." 

Thanks for listening

NZVP Ep.120 - Why I oppose SAFE's 'ban factory farming' campaign

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Here is the link to the Facebook thread: https://www.facebook.com/NZVegan/posts/532236813544913

It has died down now so I wasn't as time consuming as I thought.  Good!  Because I plan to do this more often as it needs to be done, as a lot of new vegans get sucked into welfare which is a terrible thing to happen.  We need to expose new vegans to abolition as quickly as possible - if only at the very least to give them the option to see the alternative.  Rather than them not even knowing it exists, or them only being exposed to the deliberate distortions of abolition by the welfarist movement.

Please read the following essay:

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/the-four-problems-of-animal-welfare-in-a-nutshell/#.U9FdgFYQcbQ

Please listen to the following debate (they talk a lot about the HSUS sow crate campaign in this debate so it's worth a listen and is relevant to this SAFE campaign which is focused on 'factory farmed pork'): http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/my-dinner-at-eriks-happy-meat-diner/

NZVP Ep.119 - self realisation is painful but necessary

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Here is the link to the article debunking 'reverse racism' that I mentioned and quoted from, *please* read it: http://feminspire.com/why-reverse-racism-isnt-real/

Here is the link to the articles on the modern feminist movement that I mentioned, I especially learned a lot from the second article, especially the similarities and conflicts within the feminist movement that mirror a lot of the welfarist/abolitionist debate.

http://www.newstatesman.com/lifestyle/2014/03/sex-positive-feminism-doing-patriarchys-work-it

http://feministcurrent.com/8879/the-divide-isnt-between-sex-negative-and-sex-positive-feminists-its-between-liberals-and-radicals/

I especially LOVE this comment by one of the commentators on the article whose moniker is "MLM":

"I think part of the problem, and part of what makes certain radical thinkers so easy to demonise, is that the very notion of compassion itself has also been hijacked and distorted. People think compassion is about protecting somebody’s feelings, and sometimes it is. But sometimes it’s having an understanding that there are more crucial issues at stake. And doing the right thing may actually hurt someone’s feelings, and not make you or them feel good. Sometimes the deepest compassion is the type that requires you to be the sword which cuts through the bullshit and say “No, Im sorry. I can’t and won’t go along with that. It’s not good for me or you or anyone”. (I’m learning this more and more as a parent…)

Going along with falsehood and delusion just because you are afraid of hurting someone’s feelings or because you feel sorry for them is not compassion, it’s a type of sycophancy. And while it’s so important not to lose sight of the fact that you are dealing with another human being when you find yourself in opposition with them, it’s every bit as important to point out that facilitating injustice in the name of “compassion” is actually precisely the opposite. Fierce defence of justice is actually the truest kind of compassion, but often also the easiest to mischaracterize." 


Here is a link to one of the articles by Gary Francione on the Kapparos Campaign:
http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/the-kapparos-campaign-a-good-example-whats-wrong-single-issue-campaigns/#.U7dbBxYQcbQ

Here is a link to the articles about The "Vegan" Society's betrayal of the moral baseline:
http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/moment-silence-donald-watson-founder-vegan-society/#.U7fUEhYQcbQ

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NZVP Ep.118 - my first vegan party!!!

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Here is the link to Kaiaroha Nut Cheeses who also do the Vegan Deli at the Parnell Farmers Market: http://www.kaiaroha.co.nz

Here is the link to La Noix Vegan Cake Shop: http://lanoixvegancake.com/Home/Cakes

Here are the photos!  I couldn't get decent ones of the food because it was flying off the plates too fast for me to get it all haha:

Here is the cake!  It is the chocolate mousse cake:

NZVP Ep. 117 - work conundrums

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Thanks for listening.  Feel free to share any great vegan gluten free ginger cake recipes for my mother's birthday cake :)

Here is the link to the clip about Muhammed Ali's Poem "Me, We" -something which should be the baseline for all our vegan advocacy I reckon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXQ_IjzWN7A

NZVP Ep.116 - Veganism is EASY

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NZVP Ep. 115 - Please stop making people feel better about exploiting others

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This is the quote from Gary Francione I mentioned:

"To believe in a principle of justice and promote that principle clearly is not be "angry." That term is simply a way of putting the principle down by not focusing on the substance and, instead, focusing on the person articulating the principle. 

People always "like" people who don't challenge them but in the world in which you and I live, challenging others is what morality *requires*. It's not optional!"

(In response to a comment on the Gary L. Francione: The Abolitionist Approach to Animal Rights page in which the commentator said: "I was overwhelmed by all the "angry vegan" personal attacks this week and wanted to be seen as 'nicer' by encouraging this, which did not prove to be effective and went against my conscience anyway.")

Original thread where above comment happened: https://www.facebook.com/abolitionistapproach/posts/734694363216987?comment_id=7664908&offset=0&total_comments=26

Original post on the thread, by the way, was: 

"*All* animal products involve suffering and death. All of them. We should be crystal clear that the *only* rational response to recognizing the moral status of nonhumans is to go vegan. If animals matter morally, then *any* exploitation--however supposedly "humane"--is immoral. To say that being "compassionate" requires that we promote something other than veganism is to say that we are morally obligated to promote immorality. That makes no sense, If you agree that animals matter, veganism--and only veganism--is what makes sense."

Here are the links I mentioned from the SAFE Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/SAFEnewzealand/photos/a.10150641855485434.697966.417859725433/10153770995105434/?type=1&stream_ref=10
https://www.facebook.com/SAFEnewzealand/posts/10153707967115462?stream_ref=10
https://www.facebook.com/SAFEnewzealand/posts/10153693040105434?stream_ref=10
https://www.facebook.com/SAFEnewzealand/photos/a.10150641855485434.697966.417859725433/10153686609385434/?type=1&stream_ref=10

Hope I got them all

Here is the link to the Esther the Wonder Pig posting:
https://www.facebook.com/estherthewonderpig/posts/532716096835619?stream_ref=10

Here is the link to My Face is on Fire Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/pages/My-Face-Is-on-Fire/177471362269051
Here is the one I mentioned (but there are heaps more): 23 de noviembre de 2013

And finally here is the link to the Abolitionist Approach Article: Making a Mockery of Gandhi:
http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/making-mockery-gandhi/#.UxKJ9NzDqv8

NZVP Ep.114 Special Guests Gary Francione and Anna Charlton, the authors of Eat Like You Care!

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Please go to this link to get a copy of Eat Like You Care: www.eatlikeyoucarebook.com

Just read some of these amazing reviews so you get an idea how profoundly this book is helping people: http://www.eatlikeyoucarebook.com/what-people-are-saying.html

Abolitionist Approach Website: www.abolitionistapproach.com

Please read ALL of these books:  http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/books/


Thanks for listening and a huge thanks to my lovely guests Anna Charlton and Gary Francione

NZVP EP. 113 -UPDATE: I AM NO LONGER AFFILIATED WITH TAVS

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NZVP Ep.112 - UPDATE: WE ARE NO LONGER AFFILIATED WITH TAVS AND THERE IS NO NZ TAVS CHAPTER

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