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This week I say hi and thank you to people who listened to the Gary Francione interview and other episodes and got in touch with me to offer support and I have provided links to their fantastic websites in my list of links. I reinforce why I am only comfortable with peaceful, abolitionist vegan activism, because otherwise I would not be being true to myself. I talk about how animals, unlike women or human slaves, will never be able to start their own movement or create an agenda or a political party etc etc, obviously, so they will never have a way of helping themselves from this situation that we have placed them all in. It is only up to us to help them, right through to the end.
Sunday, April 5, 2009
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You're amazing! Keep going! Woooohoooo! Vegans unite!
ReplyDeleteHello... that was an excellent point about the sheep not going to the "enemy". As if the sheep really care who they are butchered by. What a pathetic and pragmatic move to appear as the good guy. Wanna be the good guy? Don't breed/kill the sheep to begin with. That's a thought...
ReplyDeleteOh... and about the pet issue. I grappled with that for a while as well. In another podcast of yours, you stated that we don't deserve animals as "pets"... that we had our chance and we blew it. Beyond that, as much as we love them, care for them and "need" them to be in our lives - it is always of consequence to them. As wonderful as we may treat them, they are in our world, not their own. And that seems cruel.
But people who refrain from becoming vegan simply because of this one issue - is just a cop-out. It is something that is so far beyond, into the future that it almost need not be mentioned in today's discussions.
People who would continue to eat animals now, because in some centuries hence, they might not "own" pets - is just an outlandish excuse to avoid giving up their bad habit.
Thanks for your podcasting - thanks for all you do to get the message out.
Thanks Anonymous, thanks Bea for all the support and for all you do too :-)
ReplyDeleteHi congratulations on the podcast. It is so lovely to here a kiwi accent on the net! You were talking about vegan wine and I wondered if you had heard of Wrights Wines in Gisbourne? They make fantastic vegan wine - we buy this all the time and it is really good. The winemaker is committed to a vegan lifestyle and business. They do on-line orders too. I think it is important to support these kinds of producers. It's useful to find the wines that don't include animal products (almost accidently) but it's even better if you can support producers that intentionally create vegan alternatives.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.wrightswines.co.nz/
keep going on the podcast - good work.
Kiri
Hi Kiri
ReplyDeletegood to hear from you too, and thank you for listening, and for your advice. I have heard of Wrights, and I appreciate you reminding me, I am going to put a link immediately. I haven't managed to find a bottle here in a wine shop in Auckland, but I know they are available and you can definitely order from them online. There is another producer, Sunset Valley from Nelson - their bottles have a disclaimer - "no animal products were used in the production of this wine". I will add their link too and I will try to remember to mention both of them in my next podcast.
Thank you for your support.
Right on knuckles!
ReplyDeleteI love how you stated, "…animals, unlike women or human slaves, will never be able to start their own movement or create an agenda or a political party etc etc, obviously, so they will never have a way of helping themselves from this situation that we have placed them all in. It is only up to us to help them, right through to the end." Well said and oh so true. Nonhuman animals need our help to end this mess we human animals put them in AND we human animals need the abolition of the commodification of nonhuman animals to occur well before any thoughts of World Peace can come about. That is, before any of us experience true World Peace, we must be at peace with ALL sentient beings.
Love your show!!!
Sincerely,
Randy W. Sandberg